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#1 Le 17/06/2008, à 17:01
- EsTona
WG311v3 avecndiswrapper: je n'y arrive pas ! svp !
je suis tout nouveau sur linux alor le vocabulaire je comprend pas tout, n'y a t'il pas une explication simple de l'instalation de WG311v3 ? avec ndiswrapper déja installé, merci !
Ubuntu 8.04 (hardy) noyaux 2.6.24-16-generic 1024Mo (memoir vive)
Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (double core) NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS / 250Go S-ata, 1 lecteur DVD IDE, 1 graveur CD IDE.
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#2 Le 17/06/2008, à 17:03
- angel2005
Re : WG311v3 avecndiswrapper: je n'y arrive pas ! svp !
salut, suis ce lien et donne les retour des commandes.
http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=141183
Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10, sur Dell Latitude 120L 2 Gigas de Ram
Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10, sur Desktop CM asus P4B533
Carte video nvidia NX7600GT/ carte son M-audio Delta 44 2 gigas de Ram
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#3 Le 20/06/2008, à 21:33
- lachope
Re : WG311v3 avecndiswrapper: je n'y arrive pas ! svp !
bonjour.je débute sur ubuntu et impossible de me connècter en wifi.Je suis loin d'etre un pro!!!Voilà ce que j'ai obtenu apres queques heures passees sur à consulter les forums Mode:Managed Frequency:2.437 GHz Access Point: 00:1E:8C:D5:10:CB
Bit Rate=54 Mb/s Tx-Power:20 dBm Sensitivity=0/3
RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off
Power Management:off
Link Quality:70/100 Signal level:-51 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ ndiswrapper -l
wg111v3 : driver installed
device (0846:4260) present
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ is ~/wg111
bash: is : commande introuvable
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ ls ~wg111
ls: ne peut accéder ~wg111: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/wg111/wg111v3.inf
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
driver wg111v3 is already installed
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ ndiswrapper -l
wg111v3 : driver installed
device (0846:4260) present
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -e wg111v3.sys
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
couldn't delete /etc/ndiswrapper/wg111v3.sys: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ sudo ndiswrapper -m
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
module configuration already contains alias directive
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ echo 'ndiswrapper' | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
ndiswrapper
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ echo -e 'auto lo\niface lo inet loopback\n' | sudo tee /etc/network/interfaces
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ ismod
bash: ismod : commande introuvable
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
af_packet 23812 4
ipv6 267780 10
radeon 124192 2
drm 82452 3 radeon
rfcomm 41744 2
l2cap 25728 13 rfcomm
bluetooth 61156 4 rfcomm,l2cap
ppdev 10372 0
speedstep_lib 6532 0
cpufreq_userspace 5284 0
cpufreq_conservative 8712 0
cpufreq_stats 7104 0
cpufreq_ondemand 9740 0
freq_table 5536 2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
cpufreq_powersave 2688 0
video 19856 0
output 4736 1 video
container 5632 0
dock 11280 0
sbs 15112 0
sbshc 7680 1 sbs
battery 14212 0
iptable_filter 3840 0
ip_tables 14820 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 16132 1 ip_tables
ac 6916 0
sbp2 24072 0
lp 12324 0
ndiswrapper 192920 0
snd_intel8x0 35356 3
snd_ac97_codec 101028 1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 3072 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss 42144 0
snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 78596 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 4868 0
serio_raw 7940 0
psmouse 40336 0
evdev 13056 3
snd_seq_oss 35584 0
snd_seq_midi 9376 0
snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 54224 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 24836 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 9612 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
button 9232 0
parport_pc 36260 1
parport 37832 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
snd 56996 17 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
intel_agp 25492 1
agpgart 34760 2 drm,intel_agp
iTCO_wdt 13092 0
iTCO_vendor_support 4868 1 iTCO_wdt
soundcore 8800 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
shpchp 34452 0
pci_hotplug 30880 1 shpchp
pcspkr 4224 0
ext3 136712 1
jbd 48404 1 ext3
mbcache 9600 1 ext3
usb_storage 73664 0
libusual 19108 1 usb_storage
sg 36880 0
sr_mod 17956 0
cdrom 37408 1 sr_mod
sd_mod 30720 3
pata_acpi 8320 0
ata_generic 8324 0
ata_piix 19588 2
8139too 27520 0
floppy 59588 0
libata 159344 3 pata_acpi,ata_generic,ata_piix
8139cp 24704 0
mii 6400 2 8139too,8139cp
ehci_hcd 37900 0
scsi_mod 151436 6 sbp2,usb_storage,sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata
ohci1394 33584 0
ieee1394 93752 2 sbp2,ohci1394
uhci_hcd 27024 0
usbcore 146028 6 ndiswrapper,usb_storage,libusual,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
thermal 16796 0
processor 36872 1 thermal
fan 5636 0
fbcon 42912 0
tileblit 3456 1 fbcon
font 9472 1 fbcon
bitblit 6784 1 fbcon
softcursor 3072 1 bitblit
fuse 50580 3
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c network
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.12.01
usage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]
lshw -version
-version print program version (B.02.12.01)
format can be
-html output hardware tree as HTML
-xml output hardware tree as XML
-short output hardware paths
-businfo output bus information
options can be
-class CLASS only show a certain class of hardware
-C CLASS same as '-class CLASS'
-disable TEST disable a test (like pci, isapnp, cpuid, etc. )
-enable TEST enable a test (like pci, isapnp, cpuid, etc. )
-quiet don't display status
-sanitize sanitize output (remove sensitive information like serial numbers, etc.)
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
af_packet 23812 2
ipv6 267780 10
radeon 124192 2
drm 82452 3 radeon
rfcomm 41744 2
l2cap 25728 13 rfcomm
bluetooth 61156 4 rfcomm,l2cap
ppdev 10372 0
speedstep_lib 6532 0
cpufreq_userspace 5284 0
cpufreq_conservative 8712 0
cpufreq_stats 7104 0
cpufreq_ondemand 9740 0
freq_table 5536 2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
cpufreq_powersave 2688 0
video 19856 0
output 4736 1 video
container 5632 0
dock 11280 0
sbs 15112 0
sbshc 7680 1 sbs
battery 14212 0
iptable_filter 3840 0
ip_tables 14820 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 16132 1 ip_tables
ac 6916 0
sbp2 24072 0
lp 12324 0
ndiswrapper 192920 0
snd_intel8x0 35356 3
snd_ac97_codec 101028 1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 3072 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm_oss 42144 0
snd_mixer_oss 17920 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 78596 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 4868 0
serio_raw 7940 0
psmouse 40336 0
evdev 13056 3
snd_seq_oss 35584 0
snd_seq_midi 9376 0
snd_rawmidi 25760 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event 8320 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 54224 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer 24836 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device 9612 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
button 9232 0
parport_pc 36260 1
parport 37832 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
snd 56996 17 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
intel_agp 25492 1
agpgart 34760 2 drm,intel_agp
iTCO_wdt 13092 0
iTCO_vendor_support 4868 1 iTCO_wdt
soundcore 8800 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 11400 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
shpchp 34452 0
pci_hotplug 30880 1 shpchp
pcspkr 4224 0
ext3 136712 1
jbd 48404 1 ext3
mbcache 9600 1 ext3
usb_storage 73664 0
libusual 19108 1 usb_storage
sg 36880 0
sr_mod 17956 0
cdrom 37408 1 sr_mod
sd_mod 30720 3
pata_acpi 8320 0
ata_generic 8324 0
ata_piix 19588 2
8139too 27520 0
floppy 59588 0
libata 159344 3 pata_acpi,ata_generic,ata_piix
8139cp 24704 0
mii 6400 2 8139too,8139cp
ehci_hcd 37900 0
scsi_mod 151436 6 sbp2,usb_storage,sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata
ohci1394 33584 0
ieee1394 93752 2 sbp2,ohci1394
uhci_hcd 27024 0
usbcore 146028 6 ndiswrapper,usb_storage,libusual,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
thermal 16796 0
processor 36872 1 thermal
fan 5636 0
fbcon 42912 0
tileblit 3456 1 fbcon
font 9472 1 fbcon
bitblit 6784 1 fbcon
softcursor 3072 1 bitblit
fuse 50580 3
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ ndiswrapper -l
wg111v3 : driver installed
device (0846:4260) present
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ sudo lshw -c network
sudo: unable to resolve host gilles-desktop
Hardware Lister (lshw) - B.02.12.01
usage: lshw [-format] [-options ...]
lshw -version
-version print program version (B.02.12.01)
format can be
-html output hardware tree as HTML
-xml output hardware tree as XML
-short output hardware paths
-businfo output bus information
options can be
-class CLASS only show a certain class of hardware
-C CLASS same as '-class CLASS'
-disable TEST disable a test (like pci, isapnp, cpuid, etc. )
-enable TEST enable a test (like pci, isapnp, cpuid, etc. )
-quiet don't display status
-sanitize sanitize output (remove sensitive information like serial numbers, etc.)
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ iwlist scan
lo Interface doesn't support scanning.
eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning.
wlan0 Scan completed :
Cell 01 - Address: 00:14:7F:86:95:F7
ESSID:"SpeedTouch4EBA26"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
Quality:1/100 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
Cell 02 - Address: 00:19:7D:5A:20:BF
ESSID:"Livebox-5038"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.412 GHz (Channel 1)
Quality:20/100 Signal level:-83 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
Cell 03 - Address: CA:73:06:B4:B0:8B
ESSID:"freephonie"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.452 GHz (Channel 9)
Quality:1/100 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x
Cell 04 - Address: 00:16:41:BD:B2:84
ESSID:"Livebox-9028"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.457 GHz (Channel 10)
Quality:46/100 Signal level:-66 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
Cell 05 - Address: 00:17:33:58:57:10
ESSID:"Neuf WiFi"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
Quality:6/100 Signal level:-92 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:off
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
Cell 06 - Address: 00:17:33:58:57:09
ESSID:"NEUF_5708"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.462 GHz (Channel 11)
Quality:6/100 Signal level:-92 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (2) : CCMP TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
Cell 07 - Address: 00:1E:8C:D5:10:CB
ESSID:"NUMERICABLE-A7DA"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality:71/100 Signal level:-50 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
Cell 08 - Address: 02:1E:8C:D5:10:CD
ESSID:"CVGSSID3"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality:71/100 Signal level:-50 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
Cell 09 - Address: 02:1E:8C:D5:10:CE
ESSID:"CVGSSIL4"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality:71/100 Signal level:-50 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
Cell 10 - Address: 00:1F:33:42:A6:8C
ESSID:"NUMERICABLE-3D2F"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality:37/100 Signal level:-72 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
Cell 11 - Address: 7E:93:EB:12:71:27
ESSID:"freephonie"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.447 GHz (Channel 8)
Quality:10/100 Signal level:-89 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x
Cell 12 - Address: 3A:2D:31:42:3A:34
ESSID:"Steph_Dot_Reno"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality:6/100 Signal level:-92 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
Cell 13 - Address: 3A:2D:31:42:3A:37
ESSID:"freephonie"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality:1/100 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s
48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : 802.1x
Cell 14 - Address: 02:1D:60:B3:3A:5A
ESSID:"CVGSSIL4"
Protocol:IEEE 802.11g
Mode:Managed
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality:1/100 Signal level:-95 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm
Encryption key:on
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s
24 Mb/s; 36 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s
12 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:atim=0
IE: WPA Version 1
Group Cipher : TKIP
Pairwise Ciphers (1) : TKIP
Authentication Suites (1) : PSK
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$ uname -rm
2.6.24-19-generic i686
gilles@gilles-desktop:~$
j' ai l' impression d' abuser en postant ça
merci
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#4 Le 20/06/2008, à 22:35
- angel2005
Re : WG311v3 avecndiswrapper: je n'y arrive pas ! svp !
si tu y arrive pas en commande installe le pilote avec ndisgtk que tu trouve dans les depots avec synaptic.
Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10, sur Dell Latitude 120L 2 Gigas de Ram
Ubuntu Intrepid 8.10, sur Desktop CM asus P4B533
Carte video nvidia NX7600GT/ carte son M-audio Delta 44 2 gigas de Ram
http://www.imprimerie-creative.com
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#5 Le 20/06/2008, à 22:38
- willy78
Re : WG311v3 avecndiswrapper: je n'y arrive pas ! svp !
l'installation de ndiswrapper est bonnes tu n'as plus qu'a te connecter avec network-manager
Quelques tutos pour le wifi sous Ubuntu:
http://wlety.free.fr/forum
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#6 Le 20/06/2008, à 23:26
- lachope
Re : WG311v3 avecndiswrapper: je n'y arrive pas ! svp !
je ne sais pa si c' est à moi qu' on répond(première fois sur un forum)mais ma cle wep n' est pas prise en comte.au bout d'une minute il me la redemande
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#7 Le 20/06/2008, à 23:31
- willy78
Re : WG311v3 avecndiswrapper: je n'y arrive pas ! svp !
je ne sais pa si c' est à moi qu' on répond(première fois sur un forum)mais ma cle wep n' est pas prise en comte.au bout d'une minute il me la redemande
oui c'est a toi
mais d'ailleurs sur ce forum on ouvre une discussion a part avec les infos du poste épinglé en début de forum et on ne squatt pas la discussion d'un autres!
Quelques tutos pour le wifi sous Ubuntu:
http://wlety.free.fr/forum
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